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Follow That Girl - Part 5

Memories of the original production
 
On 16th and 18th April 2000 a semi-staged concert revival of Follow That Girl was staged at the Theatre Museum, Covent Garden, directed and staged by Stewart Nicholls. The cast included Leigh Jones (Tom), Rosie Jenkins (Victoria), Richard Owens (Mr Gilchrist), Carolyn Allen (Mrs Gilchrist), Stephen Carlile (Tancred), Ben Stock (Wilberforce), Marion Grimaldi (Cora Miskin), David Alder (Aquarium Keeper), Caroline Tobin (Mercia), Alexandra Turchyn (Mavis), Victoria Ashlee (Maud). Musical direction was by Rowland Lee.
 
On Sunday 16th April, members of the original production, Marion Grimaldi (who now lives in Los Angeles), Susan Hampshire, Peter Gilmore, James Cairncross, Robert McBain and Bridget Armstrong - joined by Julian Slade - talked to Stewart Nicholls. What follows is a slightly abridged transcript of that conversation
 
Philip Guard (Tancred) and Robert McBain (Wilberforce) propose to Susan Hampshire (Victoria) in Act I Scene 2
 
Nicholls: Follow That Girl was based on an earlier musical, Christmas in King Street, which ran at the Bristol Old Vic in 1952, and it was the first musical that you, Julian, and Dorothy, wrote together. I believe that you too, James, had some involvement with the writing of the piece and I wonder if you could tell us why and how it was written?

Cairncross: I first joined the Bristol Old Vic in the autumn of 1952 when the theatre director was an Irishman called Denis Carey. Those were the days when most of the big cities and indeed many of the towns were able to support at least one repertory theatre where a company of actors and actresses (we were scrupulous in those days in our observance of our gender difference. You would never refer to a lady as an actor, although there were one or two actors who wouldn't have minded …)

The company of players presented a new production every three weeks or so for a season running from the end of August to the beginning of June. At Bristol the repertoire was mainly classical with the occasional modern and the very occasional new play thrown in, but a slight little local difficulty used to arise around Christmas-time when our loyal and loving public who had got to know us quite well by that time seemed desirous of being present at some sort of musical entertainment presented by persons who could neither sing nor dance.

Denis - this was typical - had decided this year to take things a stage further and present a show written and composed entirely by the company. As far as the music went he knew he was on to a winner because the season before Julian had provided incidental music and settings for songs for the plays when required. So, a company meeting was called. Denis told us this was going to happen and that the show was going to be called Christmas in King Street.

There then followed, and this was absolutely par the course with Denis, an awesome, pin-dropping silence, broken eventually by one of the company - it might well have been me - saying 'Denis, can you give us some idea of what the show is going to be like?' And, with Irish eyes smiling and twinkling he said 'Yes, indeed I can' and we thought, thank goodness, he's going to give us some sort of outline of a plot. He said, 'I see the curtain rising on an empty stage…' So we took it from there.

When it was announced that this was going to happen there was a good deal of apprehension and dismay in the town. I was present at the box-office one day when the phone rang. There were people ringing up to book for the pantomime and the box-office manager said 'Well, we're not doing a pantomime this year'. Oh, then you don't want seats? Thank you.' So we got no help from that quarter, but the first night of the first Christmas in King Street was one of those sensational and satisfying triumphs the like of which I have seen very rarely in over sixty years in the theatre. Two years later, when Dorothy and Julian were well established and were going to do Salad Days, Dorothy was walking in the street one day and met a lady member of the Theatregoers club who said 'How's it going, Miss Reynolds?' 'Oh, all right.' 'This time is there going to be any dancing or are you all going to jump up and down like you usually do?'

Nicholls: Julian, could you give us a brief outline of the differences between Christmas in King Street and Follow That Girl?

Slade: Christmas in King Street was entirely Bristolian in flavour and it incorporated all the main landmarks of Bristol, including the statue of Neptune, memorably played by James Cairncross. All this had to be altered completely to a London location. In addition, it was necessary as we were re-shaping it, to add a considerable amount of music, so there are at least four songs that were written for Follow That Girl, including the title song. After Christmas in King Street, I was asked by Denis Carey to write a new score for Sheridan's operetta The Duenna, which starred James Cairncross and Dorothy Reynolds and I wrote a second Christmas show, The Merry Gentleman, which also starred James Cairncross.

Cairncross: We got terribly tired.

Slade: It was during the run of The Merry Gentleman that we were asked to write a summer show especially for the company, and we'd all been together for about two or three years. Salad Days was written specifically for a company of repertory actors, which I think, to be honest, was part of its strength.
Nicholls: Then followed Free as Air and Follow That Girl. So why did you decide to turn Christmas in King Street into Follow That Girl?

Slade: Because we were asked to by Jack Gatti who owned the Vaudeville. He'd come to see a revival of Christmas in King Street in 1958 and he was immensely taken with it and said that was the show he wanted to follow Salad Days when the time came. And that's why we re-wrote it.

Cairncross: Jack Gatti got awfully fed up with the new wave of stuff and said I want to see a play which starts with everybody being happy and just goes on getting happier and happier.

Nicholls: Was it the normal run of auditions or were you specifically asked to audition for a role? Susan?

Hampshire: I did audition several times. I hadn't done a musical other than Expresso Bongo and really I didn't sing well enough to do Follow That Girl. I can't imagine how I got the part, but I did. I remember one of the auditions was in a house where Julian was playing and giving me so much encouragement, willing me to get through the song. I just remembered something. There was something called the Gallery First Nighters and before the first night we knew that these people were going to shout 'Boo' and 'Rubbish'. All you could think about was not doing the play but this terrible fear of when this was going to happen. But I was very lucky to be in it, very, very lucky.

Nicholls: Peter, you'd done quite a few musicals up to then?

Gilmore: I can't be as meticulous as this lot. I can't remember much, but I think Susan and I did a sort of pantomime where you sang perfectly well, getting better and better and feeling very shy about singing.

Hampshire: I auditioned with you, then?

Gilmore: Probably.

Hampshire: Yes, that's right. Peter had the part, and he wanted someone who would go well with him.

Gilmore: So that's how it was, was it? I can't honestly remember.

Slade: You did Hooray for Daisy!

Gilmore: That's right, yes. Then you were lumbered with me for the next show.

Hampshire: And he sang like a dream. Everybody in the audience was in love with him.

Nicholls: Marion, how did you come to be in the show?

Grimaldi: I'll tell you how in a second. I was in the Royal Court one night. I remember those Gallery First Nighters. It wasn't a very good play - I can't remember what it was - but from the top of the gods, 'Take it off! It's rubbish!'. Anyway, I'd just had a musical written for me - Trilby - and it was Geoffrey Wright who got going on me and said Oh you can't do that, you've got to do this. It was as simple as that. I got £10 more a week, I think. I'd worked with Denis Carey before.

Nicholls: On A Girl Called Jo. Bridget?

Armstrong: I had just arrived about a year before from New Zealand where I'd played Jane in Salad Days and that was my great claim to success. I became in New Zealand a very big star in a very tiny pond because Salad Days was the hugest success. We went round and round the country. I wasn't supposed to play Jane but on the opening night the leading lady took ill and I went on and the papers the next day said 'Last night a star was born. We have a new Jessie Matthews'. I'd never heard of Jessie Matthews. I thought that she was Tessie O' Shea [a very large lady] so I took to my bed and said Oh this is disgusting - I'm never going to eat again. I'm never going to get up either.

So when I auditioned for Julian I wore a hat and I sang 'Spread a Little Happiness' and Julian was terribly sweet and talked to me about Salad Days in New Zealand. I got the part and - I was just saying to someone today - my time in Follow That Girl was the happiest time in my career, simply because it was such a magical time, and Princess Margaret had just got engaged and she was at the gala opening and one was in the chorus and playing another small part and one didn't have any responsibilities and one just looked gorgeous and went on and had a wonderful time. It was marvellous.

McBain: I was working in Salisbury at the time, in rep, where I met Dorothy Reynolds, so I suppose that's how I got on the list. My friend Josephine Tewson who'd also been working with me for a long time at Salisbury had just left to go up to town to do Free as Air and I thought - This is what I want to do. I want to go up to London and be in a musical and sing a bit and dance a bit and get £30 a week.

Gilmore: You got £30?

McBain: He only got £25, and dinner. And I'd live in a huge white flat in Mayfair like Anna Neagle and Michael Wilding, and that bit didn't quite come off. I was called for an audition and I'd never done a singing audition before … I didn't know what to do. Somewhere I found the sheet music of 'The Whistling Gypsy' which was pretty funny even in 1960. So I went up to London with this piece of sheet music under my arm and sang it and thank goodness Julian said You're all right.

Nicholls: So the casting was complete and, unusually, there was no pre-show tour or try-out. It just opened cold in the West End. Did much change in rehearsal?

Slade: I don't think so before the opening night, but it changed a bit after the opening night.

Nicholls: Indeed. The press was a little mixed. You'd had Salad Days which was a big success, and Free as Air [which had run for a year]. Why did Follow That Girl not quite have the run of those?

Slade: It was a very different sort of show to the climate that was in vogue at the time and probably seemed terribly old-fashioned, which it was meant to be because it's set in the Victorian period. But it was just the sort of show that critics did not like at that particular time, and also I think that they were quite ready to put the knife in a bit after Salad Days.

Grimaldi: Too successful.

Nicholls: But Follow That Girl did have a six-month run, which isn't bad. A few things happened during that run. Robert, your duet, 'Life Must Go On', was axed.

McBain: I was very cross! I thought it was lovely. Besides, it was my duet, so I enjoyed it. I believe letters were written. The public was up in arms; it was in very bad taste!

Nicholls: Some things happened to you, Bridget?

Armstrong: It was very exciting, especially on the night of the gala, and Princess Margaret became engaged to Tony Armstrong-Jones and they sat in the box. I was in a number called Three Victorian Mermaids (I'm afraid there's only one of us here today) and my second mermaid was my great friend Grazina Frame who was wondrously endowed. On the excitement of Princess Margaret and Tony Armstrong-Jones being there she became a little enthusiastic and came out of the top of her costume. She looked straight up at the royal box and held them and said 'My God, I'm out!' Another thing, which was very funny … There was a period in the 1960s when you wore a lot of false hair and false eyelashes. I'd put my wig on in a hurry over my false hairpiece and while doing the number my false hair dropped out on to the stage. It looked like a turd. Mr Cairncross came on with his broom afterwards, looked at the hair and looked at the audience - 'Someone's dropped an armpit.'
 
The three Victorian mermaids escape their tank. Left to right: Bridget Armstrong (Mercia) Grazina Frame (Mavis) and Betty Wood (Maude)

Nicholls: Julian, I believe you had a present during the run?

Slade: I had a most unusual present. Miss Hampshire came into my dressing-room one day with a little cardboard box. I opened the lid slightly and up popped a grey ear. She'd bought me a grey rabbit. I said, Oh this is lovely. What am I going to feed it on? And you said Oh I've thought of that, and you'd bought me an enormous sack of rabbit food.

Hampshire: Worse than that, I was late for rehearsal one day and I was quite upset because the understudy was on, and why was I late? Apparently, I'd bought Peter a hamster.

Gilmore: Me?

Cairncross: The all-time excuse for being late - I was buying a hamster.

Hampshire: I must have been hell to work with! That menagerie … Julian's rabbit had to be given away eventually, after it had eaten through all the wires in his mother's flat.

Grimaldi: But I thought you lost your hamster one day?

Hampshire: I did lose my hamster, yes.

Nicholls: Susan, looking back on the show, how important do you think it was to have a leading role at that point in your career, because in Expresso Bongo you had a small part and also looked after the props, didn't you?

Hampshire: I did. I was ASM. I think it was too soon. I wasn't really ready to be a 'leading lady' in a West End musical, I have to confess this. I was very lucky, and when luck comes take it, don't say I'm not ready, go with it. But I wasn't ready.

Grimaldi: But you were a leading lady. You were lovely, if I may say so.

Nicholls: What happened after the show closed, Julian?

Slade: It was done a certain amount in rep, but not as much as Salad Days. And then its greatest chance of survival was being asked to re-jig it a bit for amateur production, and there has been quite a lot of those. I added a few bits of music for that as well.
 
- Our thanks to Stewart Nicholls for allowing British Musical Theatre to publish this transcript

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